tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post8438621638251348793..comments2023-11-02T06:57:11.400-04:00Comments on BookEnds Literary Agency: Working with an Agent (I Think)BookEnds, A Literary Agencyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06287278822065839469noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-80315046298782887402008-08-26T16:56:00.000-04:002008-08-26T16:56:00.000-04:00Excuse me...an agent who works *with*an author? Si...Excuse me...an agent who works *with*<BR/>an author? Sign me up!Lynne Sears Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161704790621628767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-38098960447622970962008-07-16T00:16:00.000-04:002008-07-16T00:16:00.000-04:00Thanks for the insights.I'll keep these posts in m...Thanks for the insights.<BR/><BR/>I'll keep these posts in mind as I start my querying.Santahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770231939962704822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-35842321131904708912008-07-15T20:49:00.000-04:002008-07-15T20:49:00.000-04:00Thanks for this post. Very timely for me indeed.Thanks for this post. Very timely for me indeed.Stephanie J. Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17997433466625207454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-40555010367964826812008-07-15T14:11:00.000-04:002008-07-15T14:11:00.000-04:00I think when you have that first conversation on t...I think when you have that first conversation on the phone about the manuscript and if the discussion steers toward the kinds of revisions the agent would like to have made, that's when you ask if this is an offer of representation. Get it out in the open from the start. That's what I did, and she was like, "Oh, yes, of course! I'll be sending you a contract in the mail." And that's how we started off. She didn't offer representation the second she had me on the phone. She wanted to see how open I was to making revisions because she's part of a very hands-on agency that works directly with their authors in the revision process to get the manuscript as perfect as possible before submitting to publishers. She's just terrific to work with, too. I count my blessings every day. 8^)Karen Duvallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01839711547501582977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-38342559733836741622008-07-15T13:02:00.000-04:002008-07-15T13:02:00.000-04:00I went through this process, starting in December ...I went through this process, starting in December 2006 with an "I'm love your manuscript" phone call to a spring 2008 submit of my novel to major houses.<BR/><BR/>There were a number of events that popped up between then and Spring.<BR/><BR/>Revisions were part of it, getting to know my agent was another part (and him getting to know me). My gut tells me timing is an unspoken element, too.<BR/><BR/>I was offered a contract in an almost offhanded way -- "oh, have we sent you a contract?" in August 2007. I'd WAITED for him to ask. I never pressured, just did the work and let it all unfold.<BR/><BR/>Elation.<BR/><BR/>Then, another last minute revision in November and ... up to now. Waiting to hear back from editors. And, yes, I keep in touch and I'm interested, etc. but it's a more effective use of my time to write another novel (and draft another). <BR/><BR/>I think the getting to know one another part is essential. I feel like a lot of what I read here and on other agent / writer blogs is almost a sort of desperateness: "If only I had an agent, then ____." What always seems to be left out of the endless discussions about queries, behavior, etc. ad nauseum is a) the quality of the manuscript (have a completed on if you're writing fiction; you'll get a better deal!) and b) that "having" an agent means having a relationship. Truly. You will have to speak to the person, be transparent, agree to a business contract, be proactive about your a career --- essentially a range of basic, good common sense and communication skills. <BR/><BR/>To my mind -- and how I approached the phone through the revision process -- was that everything I did and said would be, from my agent's p.o.v., exactly how I would be were he to take me onto his client list and bring me into the fold of a super prestigious agency. <BR/><BR/>Likewise, how he presented information to ME was on my mind, too. All my questions were answered but in a very indirect way. Meaning, as an organic part of the conversation. He volunteered information, mentioned other clients ... I was given a LOT of information and shown how he operates in the world. And I liked it. <BR/><BR/>Now, when we finally met, I was a nervous wreck. And it took me a while to be able to talk in complete sentences. But that's the cool thing about being a writer: it's a lot different from being an orator. I can be kind of weird and quircky (qwicky?) ...<BR/><BR/>So, patience, persistence, politeness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-1159879020078340012008-07-15T12:24:00.000-04:002008-07-15T12:24:00.000-04:00I'd like to add to Anonymous's question, if I may....I'd like to add to Anonymous's question, if I may. When you've signed a client and are submitting his/her work to editors, at what point do you want to hear about the writer's other ideas? When do you want to see proposals for them or want them to start working on other books? Or do you want to exhaust all avenues with the book on submission before you start talking about other projects? Does it make a difference if you're getting editors who are interested but haven't finished the book yet, so you feel confident an offer will come in soon--so you don't want the writer worrying about something new when you feel a sale is imminent?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-45347318172047726052008-07-15T11:54:00.000-04:002008-07-15T11:54:00.000-04:00When my former agent provided feedback on my ms, s...When my former agent provided feedback on my ms, she said it was with "an eye toward representation." I knew where we stood. However, once I made those revisions and sent them back to her, I also sent out another batch of queries as insurance. <BR/><BR/>Kate, i love what you said about common courtesy and common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-9328973098319357152008-07-15T11:05:00.000-04:002008-07-15T11:05:00.000-04:00I have to admit that sometimes the whole process r...I have to admit that sometimes the whole process reminds me of courting during the Victorian era. <BR/><BR/>:)Sarah J. MacManushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03430266551248332700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-40690913357690626222008-07-15T10:22:00.000-04:002008-07-15T10:22:00.000-04:00Thank you for your thoughts. My take is that an ag...Thank you for your thoughts. My take is that an agent who is willing to work with me on revisions is now my first choice for representation. I would desist from other queries to concentrate on getting the book revised to the point the agent working with me will represent that work...or not. But at least I would run it out to its conclusion with that agent. I find your comments regarding working on revisions with a potential client only to have him/her go with another agent after you have spent your time and efforts working with that author on their book. Seems to me that is pretty damn shabby.<BR/>Another point your brought up: when do you mention other projects. You inicate immediately. But what if you are working on a revision and then you represent that work and now the author has other works he wants you to look at. But what if those projects are books he/she had PREVIOUSLY queried you on and you passed? Or what if you had requested a partial on another book and after reading that one passed? Would you not consider those? Or would you take another look and see if, with additional re-writing it would work for you? How do you handle those situations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-31284044471040084402008-07-15T09:25:00.000-04:002008-07-15T09:25:00.000-04:00You're amazing. Thank you for this post. I neede...You're amazing. Thank you for this post. I needed it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-37106722200754269192008-07-15T08:39:00.000-04:002008-07-15T08:39:00.000-04:00I've been in that position. I think the writer/qu...I've been in that position. I think the writer/querier has a right to feel that because the agent has taken the time to make suggestions and ask for revisions, there is an implicit contract. We all know how busy agents are, and if they were not interested, we'd get the dreaded form letter.<BR/><BR/>But from your perspective, how often are you testing to see if the author is someone who will be easy to work with--who will take constructive criticism, who will understand comments and act on them effectively? Sort of a dry run for a real relationship?<BR/><BR/>Of course, nothing beats just asking the question: will you represent me? No matter how hard that is for the hopeful writer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-4985351929407212352008-07-15T08:33:00.000-04:002008-07-15T08:33:00.000-04:00So often the information in your posts comes down ...So often the information in your posts comes down to two distinct yet connected points--common sense and common courtesy. Not a bad way to do business, though I can't imagine an agent actually sending out proposals for a client without said client first signing a contract. Does that actually happen?Kate Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05486916548114546095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-49590100441043492072008-07-15T08:21:00.000-04:002008-07-15T08:21:00.000-04:00Communication is SO important. I think writers som...Communication is SO important. I think writers sometimes are so desperate (talking about myself, lol) to get published that we may tend to grovel a bit. Thanks for pointing out the obvious in that we help the agent get paid. And the agent helps us get published.Jessica Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12365768876905444157noreply@blogger.com