tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post8954311198257514634..comments2023-11-02T06:57:11.400-04:00Comments on BookEnds Literary Agency: Workshop WednesdayBookEnds, A Literary Agencyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06287278822065839469noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-39629568679434137352011-10-31T15:30:43.146-04:002011-10-31T15:30:43.146-04:00A note about DID, there's been talk about remo...A note about DID, there's been talk about removing it from the new revision of the DSM, because of the controversy surrounding diagnosis and the fact that "Sybil" (which precipitated this disease's inclusion in the diagnostic manual) turned out to be a hoax.<br /><br />I'd hate to see a writer craft a novel around this disease only to have it no longer be relevant before the book can be published.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067226771601654605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-23761709623805940892011-10-22T19:19:46.008-04:002011-10-22T19:19:46.008-04:00The television show "United States of Tara&qu...The television show "United States of Tara" does an excellent job with this premise, so a book now would have to do a really amazing job of putting a new twist on this concept.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-68679552735255993722011-10-21T08:48:47.023-04:002011-10-21T08:48:47.023-04:00Nice post and it would be great for everyone, Than...Nice post and it would be great for everyone, Thanks a lot for spreading this information here.webpromohttp://twitter.com/#!/web_promonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-77726911874988480522011-10-20T15:28:47.425-04:002011-10-20T15:28:47.425-04:00This query sounds exactly like a soap opera - comp...This query sounds exactly like a soap opera - complete with all the unbelievable plot points - this could only happen on a soap...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-83079730616011185972011-10-20T04:30:23.505-04:002011-10-20T04:30:23.505-04:00Nice and different post which i had ever seen.Good...Nice and different post which i had ever seen.Good work and keep it up.android blackjackhttp://www.smartphonesblackjack.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-44675076296489910162011-10-19T17:18:46.949-04:002011-10-19T17:18:46.949-04:00I worry, frankly, that this book would be offensiv...I worry, frankly, that this book would be offensive to anyone suffering from mental illness. You can't order someone to get over it, and if he's going to therapy with her, that should be one of the first things he learns. I could understand Dan being upset if Emma refused to get treatment or something, but his giving an ultimatum, especially after he stepped out of their marriage first, really makes me dislike him.<br /><br />Also, I found myself curious about Emma's reaction to the affair. In my mind, it doesn't matter if Gini actually is Emma; Dan didn't think she was (although the reasoning there seems thin, too), and fully intended to sleep with someone other than his wife. So unless he's lying to Emma ("I swear, I thought she was you, I thought you were trying to spice things up", etc.), I'd expect her to be a lot more upset with him. Maybe she is, and that just didn't make it into the query because Dan is the main character. I agree with the other commenters who said this story would be really interesting if written from Emma/Gini's perspective, or maybe from all three of theirs.<br /><br />The beginning of this query is really intriguing, but the characters' reasonings and motivations become implausible as it goes on, and I think perhaps a bit more research into what it's really like to have mental illness is necessary. DID isn't a sexy, random thing; as someone mentioned above, it usually develops to help the person deal with serious mental trauma. But! The good news here is that you seem to have piqued many people's interest with the idea behind this book, and though it might take a lot of rewriting, you could probably have something really solid here in the future.Kristin Laughtinhttp://kristinlaughtin.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-83764475392848886802011-10-19T16:53:00.498-04:002011-10-19T16:53:00.498-04:00FWIW, I thought Matt Ruff's book SET THIS HOUS...FWIW, I thought Matt Ruff's book SET THIS HOUSE IN ORDER was a rather brilliant fictional take on DID.Jen Klenhttp://jenkleinbooks.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-16691863946079583432011-10-19T16:21:05.848-04:002011-10-19T16:21:05.848-04:00Dissociative Identity Disorder, like most dissocia...Dissociative Identity Disorder, like most dissociative disorders, is a self-defense mechanism, and is usually the result of severe psychological trauma. The mind creates different identities which manifest in order to take care of the person who is not able to care for themselves. The identities may have different feelings about the base personality, but they all have the same purpose--to take care of some aspect of life that the person cannot deal with.<br /><br />It takes years of work with a psychiatric professional for someone with this disorder to function normally, and while it does require the full cooperation of the sufferer, it is not something that can be worked through in less than the duration of a pregnancy simply because a husband says so.<br /><br />Emma would have to discover her memories of trauma (which she is unlikely to know because another personality would probably hold those memories to protect her), and work through them before she could even hope to integrate her personalities. <br /><br />It's a process that is terrifying for the client, and not something that anyone would easily agree to, even for the love of a child. <br /><br />Dissociative disorders cannot be medicated away, this is especially true of DID because it can be difficult to get all of the identities to agree to take prescriptions, or even to explain to all of them that they are required, as many of them may be unaware of the illness and can be triggered at any time to take over their shared body. <br /><br />As for wanting Gini to become the dominant personality, Gini is just an aspect of Emma's personality. It isn't a matter of getting rid of the personalities after choosing the one you like the best, it's a matter of taking a shattered personality and making it whole again.Taymalinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13894922480703350634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-61333895546141677782011-10-19T15:58:13.022-04:002011-10-19T15:58:13.022-04:00It might be interesting to write it from Gini, Emm...It might be interesting to write it from Gini, Emma AND Dan's perspectives. It would give the opportunity to really showcase the different personalities, and their interactions with Dan, while keeping Dan in there. <br /><br />Agreed that you can't just order someone to integrate their personalities. It simply doesn't work that way. Maybe she refuses to take her medication for DID instead, since that is something within her control.Feaky Snuckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17481513779668517971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-10328908453303107462011-10-19T13:06:42.850-04:002011-10-19T13:06:42.850-04:00Not sure my commentary is needed because I agree w...Not sure my commentary is needed because I agree with everyone so far. I especially like Foolplustime's advice about the query (and story) focusing on Emma. If the author has actually done the research needed for this subject, it's definitely not coming through in the query. It's hard, but sometimes starting over is the best thing a writer can do for themselves and the story.Elissa Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10727748060605823895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-25006404741920620922011-10-19T12:47:18.367-04:002011-10-19T12:47:18.367-04:00The first line of the query is FANTASTIC, but the ...The first line of the query is FANTASTIC, but the rest doesn't fly for me. I'm fascinated by DID, but this seems a bit all over the place. I think more of a focus to what the heart of the story is about is needed, as well as a better understanding of DID. Best of luck!Debra Lynn Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08238268767406623274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-32449837341421803732011-10-19T10:51:22.014-04:002011-10-19T10:51:22.014-04:00The 'big issue' of the book seems to be th...The 'big issue' of the book seems to be the husband's demand the wife solve her problems or give up the baby.<br /><br />To me, that rings false. Because (A) If solving DID was so simple that a person could just choose to 'integrate' their personalities, wouldn't the people with DID just do this rather than spend their entire lives fighting the disease? I don't think so. I think the husband's ultimatum isn't possible because she isn't capable of 'integrating' her personalities.<br /><br />And (B) I don't think a man can force a woman to give up a baby for adoption. He can sue for full custody himself (and in a DID case, he'd have a good chance of winning), but he can't force her to walk away. (The State can, but unless the child was in some kind of danger, I'm not sure they would.)<br /><br />This probably sounds mean, but I think you need to go back to the drawing board with this idea. It just doesn't sound credible enough.Lehcarjthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17171145477602995121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-70568375783178176462011-10-19T10:31:01.549-04:002011-10-19T10:31:01.549-04:00You can't just order someone to get over a maj...You can't just order someone to get over a major mental illness... life just doesn't work that way. That kills the whole thing for me. I do like Foolplustime's idea of rewriting it from Emma's point of view. I think that could really work, and though the author might be wedded to their POV, I think the writer should consider this.Donnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-82902757988849573502011-10-19T10:29:36.563-04:002011-10-19T10:29:36.563-04:00I don't care how good the query gets. I can...I don't care how good the query gets. I can't imagine any way this will turn out to be a good book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-34990617023521167592011-10-19T10:08:30.665-04:002011-10-19T10:08:30.665-04:00If this is women's fiction, is it appropriate ...If this is women's fiction, is it appropriate to have it from a man's point of view? I had the impression it had to be from the women's pov, otherwise it is general fiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-62739112732661169232011-10-19T09:47:35.658-04:002011-10-19T09:47:35.658-04:00Assuming control of the body once again, Gini trie...<i>Assuming control of the body once again, Gini tries to get an abortion, and Dan feels he has no choice: he lays out an ultimatum. Emma must integrate all of her alters into one whole, or else give up custody of the baby.</i><br /><br />I'm a little confused about who's who, but whoever's body these personalities occupy, it surely isn't Dan's, so how can he force her to give up custody of a future baby if she chooses not to have it?<br /><br />Dan's right. He has no choice.<br /><br />It doesn't matter if you personally think abortion is murder or whatevs: A man cannot forbid a woman to have an abortion. That's the law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23051453.post-13797424382458125552011-10-19T09:21:13.327-04:002011-10-19T09:21:13.327-04:00Imagining for a moment this is how DID works, why...Imagining for a moment this is how DID works, why does Dan chose Emma over Gini? He's found the woman he thought his wife was, wouldn't he *want* Gini to become the dominant alter? <br /><br />If I wanted to read too much into it, I'd also raise concerns regarding Dan's reaction to Gini's choice about the baby - he's essentially disposing of her because she wants to have an abortion. I say again, she is supposed to be the woman he thought his wife was, but he is willing to metaphorically murder her over this issue. Dan is coming across as a controlling, misogynistic jerk.<br />We also have the simple fact of his not noticing his wife has a fairly significant psychological disorder. How did he not notice that? Did she convince him her mood swings were down to *really bad* PMT? <br /><br />Emma should be having a heck of an emotional impact on this query but all I know is her husband thinks she's lifeless. She is pregnant and, as far as she knows, she hasn't had sex with her husband in ages. How does she even know Dan is the father? How does Dan? If he's been having an affair with Gini, how does he know Gini (or any of the other alters) hasn't been having it away with somebody else? <br />I'm wondering if this Q (MS issues aside) would work better from Emma's POV, beginning with her finding out she's pregnant. She has the emotional payload. She is pregnant, she doesn't know how, she is reliant on trusting this husband of hers who has been having an affair, she has to help him understand her condition, even if they can stop her alter from having an abortion, how does she know her baby would be safe with them? How does she feel about the baby anyway? <br />I want to see her fear and confusion and emotional upheaval. This is women's fiction, so I'd expect to find those things in the text. That there isn't a hint of them in the Q reinforces my (possibly erroneous) belief that you haven't thought this through or done the research to understand the condition.<br /><br /><br />It is a nice idea - cheating on your wife with your wife - but...there is a real world logic failure here. Along with the "Hollywood DID", it feels like this might need a major MS overhaul. If they are up for it, I think it would be worth doing, the bare bones of the idea are really interesting.Foolplustimenoreply@blogger.com